All 26 members of Febri Ramdani’s family left Indonesia to join ISIS’s caliphate in Syria, back in 2015. His family had been struggling economically for some time, and many of his relatives including his sister and her children were in desperate need of healthcare. From watching videos online and through speaking to those who had already joined, the family became convinced that life under the caliphate would be better for them all. At first, Febri was the only one who chose to stay behind. ExtremeLives spoke to Febri about the power of propaganda, and what the realities of life were under the caliphate.